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Post by Deeky on Jul 23, 2018 15:24:07 GMT -5
Oh, christ, you know "lui" is the French word for "him," right?
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Post by Deeky on Jul 23, 2018 15:28:34 GMT -5
Lui is also a very common Chinese surname. Could be the reporter got the name Chung Louis wrong in the original story.
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Post by Deeky on Jul 23, 2018 15:51:31 GMT -5
On a whim I quickly looked through the motion picture copyright registrations for 1974 and found no listing for Him. Not that it means much.
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Post by Choconado on Jul 23, 2018 18:40:37 GMT -5
It's extremely common for Asian Americans to have pseudonyms that sound more English so I wouldn't be shocked at all if this was the case.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 23, 2018 20:33:22 GMT -5
Ed D Louis is an anagram of Dildoes U. Deeky, that anagram reminds me of Famous Monsters magazine and the Mystery Photos, where Forry Ackerman would give the readers an anagram, some going on as long as a sentence, to unscramble, to get the title of the film the mystery photo was from.
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Post by Deeky on Jul 23, 2018 21:47:24 GMT -5
Is the Ackerman debate still raging over on your other board?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 23, 2018 23:51:45 GMT -5
Is the Ackerman debate still raging over on your other board? Yes, Deeky, it has gone to 118 Pages!!! Nothing really new, but it just goes on and on. I am now going to check the Bay Area Reporter for 1980. archive.org/details/bayareareporter?and%5B%5D=1980&sin=
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2018 21:18:05 GMT -5
I'm going thru the Kinsey Institute collection with a figurative fine toothed comb, and on the index listing where DoubleU found that Hand in Hand Untitled collection of 16mm film shorts, which starts with what appears to be Ed D Louie's Him, altho not under that exact title, #70 in the listing, I found one other collection in entry 64, Assorted Gay Video Collection Tape # 283, which seems like a collection of trailers, and starts off with LA Tool and Die, followed by H.I.M. which seems to be an acronymn for what? A film production company? If this is a collection of film trailers, running two hours, and LA Tool and Die is from the 1970s, I wonder if the trailer for Ed D Louie's HIM could be in this compilation? Here is the Link: iucat.iu.edu/kinsey/14382955This film or video is from the Factor Press Video Collection. The Factor Press Video Collection and this particular film does look like it's worth checking out further. In leaving no stone unturned I think I will find the complete list of the Assorted Gay Video Collection, as well as the Stag Film Collection, and the Swedish Erotica Film Collection, and give all of those list a complete search. It wouldn't be any more boring than my recent searches through the Bay Area Review.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2018 21:42:06 GMT -5
Right now, I don't know how much value Film Detectives interested in Ed D Louie's HIM might attach to documenting showings of that film with newspaper ads.
Anyone got any opinions pro or con?
I'd welcome any comments.
I don't think my search through the Bay Area Reporter was entirely a waste of time, although I am suspending it for the present.
The thing I was looking for, was in regard to reports of HIM being shown at the Nob Hill Theater, or the Nob Hill Male Cinema, both names of which I have found in the B.A.R., in San Francisco, in 1975-1976, but I could find no showings of HIM in SF at that house or any other, in that city, from 1974-1976
I think that claim was made in the AV Maniacs Forums, in a thread titled What Is Your Holy Grail of Porn?
It seems that the AV Maniacs Forum has become defunct, and unless someone has saved it before that web page disappeared, the Way Back Machine might be the only Slim and None chance of finding it.
I know I saved it, but, just how it became lost, through my intentionally deleting it, or through one of my several computer crashses, I can't really say.
The problem with the B.A.R. is that while the Nob Hill schedule, under whichever surname it went by, was well documented for 1976, a sizeable number of issues of B.A.R. are missing from 1975, and the Nob Hill did not always advertise in the issues that are included in the Way Back Collection.
Also, it seems that the San Francisco Chronicle was claimed as having ads for HIM being shown at the Nob Hill in 1975-1976, so obviously, that newspaper would be the right place to look for those weeks when that house's schedule was not in the B.A.R.
I have checked Newspapers.com (I think that's the name, if it isn't I'll get it right with repeated visits to their web page), and the only issues of the San Francisco Chronicle they listed are way back in the 1920s at the latest.
I'd think there might be somewhere that the SF Chronicle is archived, and if a person had a select few times to look when the Nob Hill did not advertise in B.A.R in 1975-1976, it would be worth the effort.
Finding out just what is available online or otherwise of the SF Chronicle for 1975-1976, is worth pursing, if a Film Detective does consider documenting when and where HIM was shown, worthwhile.
And, I did make notes on when the Nob Hill schedule was included or left out of the B.A.R. for those two years, as well as which issues are missing.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2018 21:57:10 GMT -5
Judas Priest, and Ed D Louie's HIM on a Crutch! I took my own advice, and did a search on the Kinsey Institute's Assorted Gay Video Collection, and I couldn't even find the ending of it, at 10 entries a page, and numberings going as high as in the 500s. iucat.iu.edu/kinsey?q=Assorted+Gay+Video+Collection&search_field=all_field&search_scope=catalog&utf8=%E2%9C%93I might start looking thru them, and, who knows? Maybe the entire feature length Ed D Louie's HIM might be included. But, with the entries not starting out with #1, and going forward, being all mixed up in order, that's not good for underetaking such a task. Anyone on here who would know how to filter the list so it starts with #1 and proceeds, with # 2 . . . . onto . . . ??? I'll do a few random checks on the entries to see some of what is there.
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Post by Deeky on Jul 27, 2018 22:13:09 GMT -5
Change the 'sort by' order to title.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2018 22:51:29 GMT -5
Change the 'sort by' order to title. Thanks, Deeky. I'll give it a try. I did give it a try, and while it it didn't arrange things exactly like I wanted them, there are so many film titles on those cassettes from around the time that HIM was released, that it won't surprise me at all if the entire feature HIM is on one of them, along with the featurettes, and shorts which fill up the 2 hours.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2018 23:34:59 GMT -5
They certainly have.
Why is Jesus in a tux? I kid of course. But that is an odd image for that film. I've only previously ever seen the more beatific-looking picture in previous ad-mats for the film.
Dr. Claw, I have also wondered who that guy in the tux was. Could he have possibly been the host of the Bijou sex club and movie house? Many years ago, I did look over the Bijou web page, and the man who owned and operated it told of being arrested over 100 times in connection with his selling porno. I can't remember his name, tho. But, looking over more ads from the Bijou before and after HIM played there, I'd think my guess as to the photo being of the owner, operator and / or host of the Bijou if his photo also appeared in those ads.
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Jul 29, 2018 0:28:51 GMT -5
Why is Jesus in a tux? I kid of course. But that is an odd image for that film. I've only previously ever seen the more beatific-looking picture in previous ad-mats for the film.
Dr. Claw, I have also wondered who that guy in the tux was. Could he have possibly been the host of the Bijou sex club and movie house? Many years ago, I did look over the Bijou web page, and the man who owned and operated it told of being arrested over 100 times in connection with his selling porno. I can't remember his name, tho. But, looking over more ads from the Bijou before and after HIM played there, I'd think my guess as to the photo being of the owner, operator and / or host of the Bijou if his photo also appeared in those ads. Yeah, I like to think that's a shot of the Bijou's host, owner, or some-such. Never hurts to class things up a bit, though with that business it might be a lost cause. I'm imagining The Bijou as this petri-dish of pestilence.
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Post by Choconado on Jul 29, 2018 14:43:03 GMT -5
I think if you're dedicated enough to find them, newspaper listings of showings around the country are definitely within the purview of the search by far. Also kudos for finding yet another compilation tape that may be a lead.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 29, 2018 20:28:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the post, Choco. Deeky was nice enough to give me some basics on the prices of newspapers.com. There are two levels of membership, one with fewer newspapers,and lowest price, and another one with all newspapers they have at a higher price.
So far, I have not found out if the free one week trial membership includes all of the newspapers or not.
My strategy is to find out how soon after the new york run in 1974 that him went to Boston, and if it could have also played in Newark, New Jersey, although would that have been too close to NYC for another showing?
In 1975, my guess is that along with that one week run in Pittsburgh, HIM might have played two weeks in Philadelphia, since the population there was much greater than in Pittsburgh.
After the midwest premier at the Bijou in Chicago, I'd look in the Detroit Free Press, which is included in newspapers.com, as a likely next destination.
You can see very small thumbnails of all issues listed, but I don't know if looking thru the Chicago tribune there would be any Bijou ads large enough to recognize "Mr. Tux," if he was a continuing face in that house's ads.
Click on the thumbnails, and for a split second you see the whole page, then the subscription price or free 7 day trial offer covers the page up.
If newspapers.com wanted to attract more paying members, they might do better allowing maybe one view of a full page, not large enough to scroll up and down, and some fence sitters like myself might well be concvinced their prices would be worth it.
Also, they sell DNA testing kits, where members send in saliva samples. Might have something to do with those doing geneology searches.
I'll put it this way: I'm going to do a very thorough search of what's available on newspapers.com, including looking over the tiny thumbnails, and then will decide on a plan of action to use my time, and possibly money to their full advantage.
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Post by Deeky on Jul 31, 2018 16:02:04 GMT -5
The That's Entertainment of Male Sex Films
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 31, 2018 19:29:00 GMT -5
I'm going thru the Kinsey Institute collection with a figurative fine toothed comb, and on the index listing where DoubleU found that Hand in Hand Untitled collection of 16mm film shorts, which starts with what appears to be Ed D Louie's Him, altho not under that exact title, #70 in the listing, I found one other collection in entry 64, Assorted Gay Video Collection Tape # 283, which seems like a collection of trailers, and starts off with LA Tool and Die, followed by H.I.M. which seems to be an acronymn for what? A film production company? If this is a collection of film trailers, running two hours, and LA Tool and Die is from the 1970s, I wonder if the trailer for Ed D Louie's HIM could be in this compilation? Here is the Link: iucat.iu.edu/kinsey/14382955This film or video is from the Factor Press Video Collection. The Factor Press Video Collection and this particular film does look like it's worth checking out further. In leaving no stone unturned I think I will find the complete list of the Assorted Gay Video Collection, as well as the Stag Film Collection, and the Swedish Erotica Film Collection, and give all of those list a complete search. It wouldn't be any more boring than my recent searches through the Bay Area Review. Deeky, going thru all of those VHS tapes in the Kinsey collection, I found that H.I.M. was the name of a film production and / or distribution film company, and not the tile of the Ed D Louie film, although I suppose that Mr. Louie's film could possibly have been distrubuted by H.I.M. films, and if that reel had trailers on it, Ed D Louie's HIM could have possibly been included even if not distributed by H.I.M. films That ad you posted, and the fact that so far I nor any other film detective have found Ed D Louie's HIM on those various multi feature of Hand in Hand films, plus the fact that HIM was not listed in the IMDB Hand in Hand list of releases and the fact that the Gay Erotic Film lists Ed D Louie's HIM as A Fantasy Film, or was it Fantastic Film? makes me think that HIM was not a Hand in Hand release but a one time only release of Fantastic Films, or Fantasy Films. That would of course make tracking the film's tour of the USA and where else, more difficult. After that exhaustive search I did on Kinsey's Gay Film Collection, and finding no more listings for HIM, I'm ready for a rest but for any of you intrepid (or, masochistic?) Film Detectives, and for myself, if and when I feel rested from that recent surfing, here is the link for KInsey's Stag Film Collection: iucat.iu.edu/kinsey?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search_field=title&q=Stag+Film+CollectionAnd for those who want another strenuous workout, KInsey's Swedish Erotica Collection: iucat.iu.edu/kinsey?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search_field=title&q=Swedish+Erotica+Film+Collection
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Post by Deeky on Aug 1, 2018 13:26:16 GMT -5
You're saying I highlighted that part in yellow for nothing?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 1, 2018 13:38:27 GMT -5
You're saying I highlighted that part in yellow for nothing? No, Deeky,it was a very good thing for you to highlight that part of the ad in yellow. Thanks for doing that.
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