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Post by Dr. Kobb on Mar 28, 2019 1:32:56 GMT -5
11:41 PM Friday. Just watched Chapter 7 (15 chapters total).
So, you found out approximately half-way in how many episodes this serial had in total? Did that change anything about how you've viewed the rest of the episodes?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Mar 28, 2019 8:25:09 GMT -5
Dr. Kobb, I typed up a long, deatiled explanation of my viewing habits of the Batman serials, and somehow lost is, and that might be for the best. Basically, it's when I have the time and can stay awake to watch the serials. My work schedule has been very hectic lately, complicated by my having a bad cold, or possibly influenza which has slowed me, down, causing me to sleep a lot more than I usually do, further limiting the time I have to watch videos.
I have enjoyed both of the 2 batman serials, and have no complaints about either one.
When I find the time and can stay awake long enough, I'll watch Chapter 12. Possibly later today, or tonight, or tomorrow or tomorrow night.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Mar 29, 2019 22:52:56 GMT -5
It's now Friday night, 11:53 PM and I have just watched chapter 12, Robin Rides the Wind, which ends with a truck Robin was driving, running off of the
highway and down a steep cliff. Chapter 13 is titled The Wizard's Challenge, and I'm putting it here for whenever I, or any other viewer of this thread, decide to watch it.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Mar 30, 2019 16:23:10 GMT -5
I just watched Chapter 13. Chapter 14, Batman Vs. The Wizard is next.
The name of the grumpy man in the wheelchair, who it seems changes into the Wizard after taking those neon electric chair treatments, is never actually seen putting on or taking off the Wizard costume, so while a casual viewer would think he and the Wizard are one and the same we have to remember my last point about never seeing a costume change on his part, His name is Hamill, some kind of "scientist," a professor, or a doctor?
Recently, reading the old 1940s detective comics I remember just such a character, an extremely stingy and grumpy character a reader would think was a villain, and a bad guy enemy of Batman, and Robin, but despite his negative side, he is not a villain. So, I'm assuming it's the same here in the movei house serial. But, he is suspected of being the Wizard, who gets an injury to his right hand. Hamill, along with 2 other characters is checed by Batmanm and Robin and all 3 have an injury to their right hand. So, as we get to the final 2 chapters of the serial, the Mystery of just who the Wizard is, will finally be solved. I thought Hamill's ability to get out of the wheelchair and walk normally was a secret, but when Batman and Robin saw him out of his wheelchair walking with no problems, nothing about it seemed unusual to them.
Don't know how closely anyone else other than myself has followed this serial, and I won't "spoil" the ending in case anyone is still awaiting it, when I finally get to the final chapter.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 1, 2019 5:35:49 GMT -5
I've just watched Chapter 14, in which the Wizard becomes invisible, and I agree with those viewers who say that the invisibility effects were good.
I didn't notice any strings or wires when objects are carried around by the invisible Wizard. Are there any other filmic techinques where this effect can be done without wires or strings? Also, one viewer commented that in the Bat cave we see the shadows of the bats flying around on the walls, but not the solid bats themselves.
I think this is a better effect than showing the solid bats, suspended from visible wires or strings.
Here's the link to the concluding chapter 15, Batman Victorious.
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 2, 2019 1:01:04 GMT -5
Good point about just showing the shadows in bat-infested caves rather than the old dangling string bats. Those always looked silly in old movies (and serials).
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 4, 2019 0:21:45 GMT -5
Well, I've got the link to the final chapter of the serial here for me (or anyone else) to click on and watch, and I want to watch it, but on the other hand, once I do watch it, that's all there is and there ain't no more (Commando Cody song lyrics).
I'll watch the final chapter and enjoy it as much as all the others and also the earlier B and R serial, but with a sadness that it's the last of an old fashioned cinema experience that we will never see again.
But, at the same time, glad there were the 2 Batman and Robin serials, and that they were preserved and are here for all of us to view, for free.
Wish I could see them on a full sized movie house screen!
Haven't yet found the Detective Comics story in which Professor Hamill (if that was his name and title in the comic strip appeared). Been surfing thru the old 1940s issues, avoiding the issues where Joker and Penguin or some other Name Star Villain was the attraction, but now I'm thinking the cranky grumpy but not a villain professor appeard could have been in a Penguin story.
Anyone who knows which story I'm looking for?
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 4, 2019 0:57:27 GMT -5
It's okay, you can spoil things for me. I know I will probably never get around to it. Does it clear up any loose threads in the final episode? Like, could you say for sure that it turned out that the professor-type Hamill did in fact turn out to be "The Wizard"?
I've actually never sat through an entire serial series. Closest I've come was The Phantom Creeps, which was a lot of fun at times. I think it was more just life interruptions that kept me from finishing it. So, I've never made it through to the end of an entire serial. It's probably not the same binging them. I can imagine being a kid at the movies for a 10-cent Saturday afternoon in the 40's and 50's, eagerly awaiting next week's installment to find out how X gets out of Y predicament in some action-packed serial every week before the main feature. Must've been grand.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 4, 2019 23:34:39 GMT -5
Still can't bring myself to the inevitable and necessary duty of watching the final chapter of the 1949 serial. I'll reveal the spoiler for Dr. Kobb with a warning for those who don't want to know it.
Did some more searching of the old comic books, and there was an eccentric man who was not a villain, in a Two Face story, and Batman and Robin saved him from Two Face, and he was still grumpy and didn't seem greateful. However, his name was not Hamill, and he was not in a wheelchair.
But, it was a similarity to what I saw in the serial.
With a sadness, I will watch the final chapter realizing that All Good Things Must End.
And, knowing that there is still the 1966 TV show, said to be much inspired by the 1949 serial, to be enjoyed and savored.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 13, 2019 1:39:01 GMT -5
Well, I watched the final chapter few nights ago, and
***SPOILER FOR DR KOBB***
Wheelchair bound Professor Hamill confessed to Batman that he was the Wizard, but Batman knew it was a false confession. The Wizard was actually a twin of some other character in the film.
***END OF SPOILER***
Watching both of the Batman and Robin serials was a great, fun experience that I feel was time well invested.
Actually, I don't see what would have been wrong with Robin in the second serial having hairy legs. Big F---ing deal, if he did.
From the comic strip it was quite plain that Robin's legs were bare, and it looked ridiculous to see Robin in those long-legged tights in the 1949 serial.
I'd like to see the 1942 serial in a good 35mm print on a big movie house screen to get an idea of just how hairy Robin's legs were in that film.
Or, could he have shaved his legs in that serial.
And, if it was so important to Sam Katzman, or the studio exects in 1949, that Robin did not have hairy legs, (as well as his double for the action scenes), why didn't the guy that played Robin and his double just shave their legs?
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Post by Marxo Grouch on Apr 13, 2019 5:01:44 GMT -5
Plus, Nair had already been on the market for nearly a decade by then, so there's really no excuse.
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Post by Mayzshon on Apr 13, 2019 11:42:18 GMT -5
It's okay, you can spoil things for me. I know I will probably never get around to it. Does it clear up any loose threads in the final episode? Like, could you say for sure that it turned out that the professor-type Hamill did in fact turn out to be "The Wizard"?
I've actually never sat through an entire serial series. Closest I've come was The Phantom Creeps, which was a lot of fun at times. I think it was more just life interruptions that kept me from finishing it. So, I've never made it through to the end of an entire serial. It's probably not the same binging them. I can imagine being a kid at the movies for a 10-cent Saturday afternoon in the 40's and 50's, eagerly awaiting next week's installment to find out how X gets out of Y predicament in some action-packed serial every week before the main feature. Must've been grand.
I made it all the way through "The Adventures of Captain Marvel" (probably one of the best serials I've ever seen), but I think that's the only one. I've STARTED tons of them, but tend to drop off halfway through. |
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Post by Deeky on Apr 13, 2019 12:46:47 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute.  |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 13, 2019 12:57:02 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute. I bet Billy immediately looked at his package. |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 13, 2019 13:03:18 GMT -5
It's okay, you can spoil things for me. I know I will probably never get around to it. Does it clear up any loose threads in the final episode? Like, could you say for sure that it turned out that the professor-type Hamill did in fact turn out to be "The Wizard"?
I've actually never sat through an entire serial series. Closest I've come was The Phantom Creeps, which was a lot of fun at times. I think it was more just life interruptions that kept me from finishing it. So, I've never made it through to the end of an entire serial. It's probably not the same binging them. I can imagine being a kid at the movies for a 10-cent Saturday afternoon in the 40's and 50's, eagerly awaiting next week's installment to find out how X gets out of Y predicament in some action-packed serial every week before the main feature. Must've been grand.
I made it all the way through "The Adventures of Captain Marvel" (probably one of the best serials I've ever seen), but I think that's the only one. I've STARTED tons of them, but tend to drop off halfway through. The guy that hosts the movie meet-up every couple of weeks has been including an episode of Captain Marvel every time (sandwiched in between the two main features). That one is a lot of fun, and I so badly want the cape the Scorpion wears.
I forgot that I also was making good headway through Perils of Nyoka before I gave out on that one.
And I still intend on seeing Darkest Africa through some day.
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Post by Deeky on Apr 13, 2019 13:48:44 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute. I bet Billy immediately looked at his package. Did he approve? Inquiring minds want to know! |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 13, 2019 23:19:44 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute. Deeky, after logging in and enlarging the photo, I'd agree with you on that. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Apr 13, 2019 23:30:21 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute. I bet Billy immediately looked at his package. Well, Dr. Kobb, you are a mind reader. If Robin wasn't particularly hirsute, what else was there to look at. I just cannot see what changed between the 1940s and the 1960s, that some officials in the Catholic Church would get into such a hissy fit because they thought Batman and Robin's packages were too big. What did they want the Dynamic Duo to be? Members of their Castrati Choir? Were Catholic officials watching the 1940s serials. I don't think it is a matter worth wasting my time on, but I have only seen one still from the 1960s Batman TV show where one of them had a big package, and it was Robin, and I will say in that one and only case it was a Jim Dandy (as Pauline Tabor, Madame on Clay Street was told by her bridgroom on their wedding night, when she saw his equipment for the firstime. If I ever find the time and motivation to get that one photo on here (or if any of you others can find it and get it on here, please do so. It is where Robin in laying on his back, tied up. But that is the the sole, One and Only photo I have ever seen of Batman and/or Robin from the 1960s TV show with a big package. Believe it or not, there are web pages that go on page after page by fans of the TV show with stills showing what the webmasters think are the Big Baskets of Batman and Robin. As far as I am concerned it is Much Ado About Nothing. |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 14, 2019 1:04:13 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute. Deeky, after logging in and enlarging the photo, I'd agree with you on that.
Interesting. Are readers unable to see more than the thumbnails of picture attachments if they aren't logged-in here? I'm just wondering...
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Apr 14, 2019 1:08:50 GMT -5
1943 Robin didn't appear to be particularly hirsute.
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