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Post by Deeky on Jul 24, 2019 10:04:34 GMT -5
Is it your plan to post an image of every post from the other board?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 24, 2019 15:45:04 GMT -5
Is it your plan to post an image of every post from the other board? Deeky, that is my intention if it is OK with the Webmaster, the reason being that a lot was said in those posts, that needs to be quickly available, and how many people would want to go to the trouble of going to the told board, and having to log in to read those posts? I don't like doing that myself, and even if I am the only person interested in those posts, having them here would be easier than having to view them on the old board. But, to enlarge the images, I, or anyone else wanting to view them would still have to enlarge them, here on the new board, which would require logging in here. I'm willing to follow whatever rules and regs the Webmaster might have in regard to this matter. |
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Jul 24, 2019 20:04:30 GMT -5
Something was obviously eating at JDE3 for a long time. If he never confided in anyone, well, it would just remain his little secret until it was too late.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 24, 2019 21:33:47 GMT -5
I think I would agree with you about that, Goldie. And, I don't think that anyone can really know what that something was.
From what he did confide in Detective Dear, it seems like a combination of things.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2019 20:23:06 GMT -5
He lost me at "gay lifestyle." Deeky, the firstime I can find "gay lifestyle," is under the heading "Disclaimer." All of this is very confusing, in that what I linked to was not an original post to a message board, but a post to a message board? I'm confused myself, where some guy was answering a question about Dallas and his being seen having lunch with a young lady whose name I can't recall, wiht< marks, which seem to be a quotation from a message board, and this guy references to an "article" he wrote. I probably am going to have to make a list of all the sources that these references come from. Well, I think you did get lost after reading "gay lifestyle," in the section with the heading, "Disclaimer," is that correct? |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 27, 2019 20:33:50 GMT -5
I think I also found that message bord post which referred to the "article," where Deeky got lost under the heading "Disclaimer," in the original I think it was "newsgroup" posting.
One thing I did notice was the use of the term, "urban myth," wheras previously I was more familiar with the term "urban legend."
I suppose there could be both Urban Myths, and Urban Legends, although distinguishing between the two terms might be un-necessarily engaging in semantic, although I consider engaging in semantics inevitable and unavoidable.
One thing I wouold like to know more about is Dallas being called to fix the computers at Wright Patterson Air Force Base at the age of 12.
Does anyone claim that was, or is an Urban Myth, or an Urban Legend?
Like I said before, was that widely known through press reports at the time, just as Dallas later disappearing from MSU later widely known through press reports.
And, I also need to check out that story from Life magazine, and the young genius who was possibly even younger than Dallas, and his specialty being mathematics, who his name is, and if his great intelligence lead him into doing great things and making (to quote from Hey There Delilah).
There is probably a web page for Life Magazine, but would it have an index for 1960s stories?
I really do mourn the demise of the hard copy hardcover, Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature.
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Post by Deeky on Jul 27, 2019 21:53:34 GMT -5
Well, I think you did get lost after reading "gay lifestyle," in the section with the heading, "Disclaimer," is that correct? I don't recall where in the article he used that term. 🤷🏼♂️ |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 28, 2019 0:35:14 GMT -5
Well, I think you did get lost after reading "gay lifestyle," in the section with the heading, "Disclaimer," is that correct? I don't recall where in the article he used that term. 🤷🏼♂️ Deeky, the firstime I can find the two words "gay lifestyle" are under the heading "Disclaimer," after the "article" itself starts. The paragraphs under those first 3 headings are very brief and if you scroll too fast, you can miss them. The first 3 headings are: In Brief Why Have I Written This Article Disclaimer |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Jul 28, 2019 12:59:59 GMT -5
Glad you liked that last post.
I'm so mixed up I can't remember what I've said on this new thread, or the thread on the old board, relating to JDE3, but after my last posts, I did find that google has a complete file of Life magazine thru its ceasing publication in 1972, and it is free for viewing, so, I now have a project of finding the story about that young mathematics genius, and catching up on how things turned out for him in life.
I think it is an unfair stereotyped, and cliched idea that geniuses, prodigies, and those with high IQs are exploited and pushed too much to accomplish by their parents, and end up wasting their lives.
I did some net searches on prodigies and they are generally considered children up to the age of 10.
On the matter of high IQs, I once got a reprimand from the leader of a support group for saying I had an average IQ, and after the meeting, he told me that most people were average, so why should you be considering having an average IQ a negative thing?
Well, I didn't have any ready answer, and it's probably best that I didn't, and his main concern was that it would make other, "average" people in the group feel bad.
It would be like my lamenting the fact that I was not a millionaire.
How many millionaires would there likely be in a small support group? And, why should you feel like you should be a millionaire?
I learned from that experience, that in support groups, you cannot "open up" about yourself, and be honest and tell about yourself, any more than you can in any other area of society.
Basically, we live in a competitive society, where those who are above average in both money and intelligence, can accomplish more and have better lives.
Although, it is fair to say that sometimes those with average intelligence can still in some cases become millionaires, can accomplish much and fare better in society than those with higher intelligence.
There are exceptions to most rules.
One project I have let fall by the wayside, is taking an IQ test, which I started on, and made significant progress, but just got too preoccupied with to finish.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 6, 2019 12:03:17 GMT -5
I am getting close to finishing my IQ tests, with only two of the "Masterful" level tests left to go.
When I told one of my friends about it, he went into a total hissy fit, which I was delighted by.
He asked me, "WHY do you want to take an IQ test?"
Well, the best comparison I could find was crossword puzzles, so I told him it was a challenge that I enjoyed just as those who do crossword puzzles do.
In fact, one of the questions on the test was a blank except for one boxed letter filled in, crossword puzzle, with a list of words the puzzle was to contain.
I got it exactly right, and was very gratified in doing that.
This friend of mine felt that IQ tests are not valid or accurate indications of how intellegent a person is.
I think that such criticisms do have merrit, and as I answer, or attempt to answer the questions, I can see many of the things that the critics of IQ tests have pointed out, too much to go into in this thread, which is supposed to be about Dungeon Master JDE3.
I do know that he must have had a high IQ, but in all my reading about his all too short life and times, I have not found what his IQ test score was.
Sharron Holmes, long suffering wife of the late John C. "King of Pornography" Holmes, and also now deceased herself, had a very high IQ. I think it was 187.
Cyrl Chessman, the jailhouse lawyer who delayed his execution for kidnapping for 12 years, was recognized as a good lawyer, even though he did not have formal law school training.
He was said to have had a very high IQ (maybe some True Crime Students might know what the score was), but later it was discovered that the test showing him with such a high IQ was incorrectly graded.
Jayne Mansfield was also reported to have had a very high IQ but that claim was also debunked.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 6, 2019 12:27:59 GMT -5
Is it your plan to post an image of every post from the other board? Webmaster Deeky, a good question is often worth answering more than once. If I could do things the way I wanted to do them, I would simply get the original post here on the new board and continue it. But, I don't know any way to do that. And, repeating parts of, or, even just some excerpts from the old board, does serve some useful purpose. For example: in my very first post, I wrote: "This sad story is so far in the past, that it's probably forgotten by most people, and not known to the new generation that has come along afterwards." Well after doing my recent net searches on the case I have found that to be totally incorrect. Among the general American public at large, and even in other countries, this is an old news story that has been long forgotten. But, among those who are interested in the various issues involved in the case: role playing games, including Dungeons & Dragons, child prodigies, and the parents of those prodigies and whether those parents sometimes push their offspring too far in accomplishing things, drug use and abuse, sexuality, and societial attitudes toward sexuality, and many more subjects, the case is very well remembered, and the interest in its relation to so many social concerns, will continue, although the audience for discussion of the case today might be relatively small. But, I think it is a story worth remembering. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 6, 2019 12:35:09 GMT -5
Is it your plan to post an image of every post from the other board? Webmaster Deeky, I have run into this same situation on at least one other message board that went defunct and was revived in a new incarnation. And, as I did earlier in this thread, I just took screenshots from the other, old message board. From those first 3 screen grabs, it is not practical, because getting those images, cropping them, and posting them here is just too impractical, and a waste of my time, plus, to be readable, the images have to be clicked on and enlarged to be read, which, how many people would go to the trouble to do? So no, I will not be posting an image of every post from the old ZAQB thread. However, I am leaving open the possibility of putting the text from the posts here on the new board, as I did in quoting something relevant from the old board above. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 6, 2019 12:47:09 GMT -5
He lost me at "gay lifestyle." Webmaster Deeky, I think the author of the article, in trying not to offend GLBTN (I'm adding N for the tiny few neuters who don't have any genital organs of either sex). Well, in trying not to offend GLBTN rights groups the author bent over backwards, in constantly assuring those in such groups, that he was not saying anything against any sexual orientation, and these assurances were repeated so constantly, that it really got in the way and distracted the readers from what he had to say about the case of JDE3. Even an adept Yogi would need a chiropractor after bending over backwards as much as the writer did. |
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Post by Deeky on Aug 6, 2019 17:33:40 GMT -5
"Neuters"?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 6, 2019 20:29:07 GMT -5
Yes, Deeky, Phil Donahue once did a show about "Neuters," with several guests. Don't know if transcripts of TV talk shows are still available today, but I got a transcript of Sally Jesse Raphael's interview with Steven Stayner, because the local TV station showed only a half hour edited version and I wanted to get the entire interview. I might do a net search on Phil Donahue's show about neuter people. Although A priority more related to the subject of prodigies and young geniuses studying for college degrees at very young ages, such as that story of the math kid wiz, might be more relevant to the story of JDE3. Maybe the Neuter People story needs to be in a separate thread from the Dungeon Master thread. |
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Post by Deeky on Aug 6, 2019 20:58:58 GMT -5
I dunno, Billy.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 10, 2019 15:06:52 GMT -5
Since the old ZAQB board has become defunct, I have noticed that the Original post is repeated at the top of every new page when there is a page change, and the numberings of posts are numberings of the responses to the original post, although in the case of the Dungeon Master thread on the old board there was only one page.
I'm going to present two more posts from the old ZAQB, in the text format and putting the poster's avatar as an attachment.
Deeky, I may have asked this before, but is your avatar in the final days of the old board a dog wearing a gas mask?
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 10, 2019 15:10:23 GMT -5
Here is Post #4 (total counting the OP), a short one from Dr. Kobb with his Bloody Vampire avatar.
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Re：The Dungeonmaster
Date Posted：09/24/2011 10:41 AMCopy HTML
As someone with low intelligence wasting their life, I resent this entire
discussion.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 10, 2019 15:15:15 GMT -5
Post # 5
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Re：The Dungeonmaster
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A well-publicized search for Egbert began after The State News (MSU's
daily student newspaper) broke the story of his disappearance from his
room in Case Hall (a student dormitory) in an article written by Michael
Stuart. Egbert's parents subsequently hired private investigator William
Dear to find their son. Dear knew nothing about Dungeons & Dragons at that
time. He questioned some of Egbert's friends who were nearly as ignorant,
since Egbert had never played the game at Michigan State. Dear concocted a
theory that Egbert had become lost in the steam tunnels during a
live-action version of D&D, and the press repeated Dear's hypothesis as
fact. The search for Egbert continued unsuccessfully for several weeks.
In fact, Egbert had fled campus. As the furor over his disappearance
spread, several of Egbert's hosts asked him to leave their homes, fearing
repercussions with law enforcement. Egbert eventually traveled to New
Orleans, where he again attempted suicide, this time with cyanide. After
this attempt also failed, he moved to Morgan City, Louisiana and took a
job as a laborer in an oil field.
Four days into this new job, Egbert called Dear and revealed that he was
hiding in Morgan City. Dear traveled to Louisiana (other reports say
Texas) and recovered Egbert. When the two finally met, Egbert asked the
investigator to conceal the truth of his story. Dear agreed and released
the 16-year-old to the custody of his uncle, Dr. Marvin Gross, on
September 13, 1979.
Because of his promise to the boy, Dear left the false news reports
unchallenged for the rest of the boy's short life. Egbert's third suicide
attempt on August 16, 1980, by gunshot, succeeded. Four years after
Egbert's death, Dear revealed his story in his 1984 book The Dungeon
Master.
Prior to Dear's revelations, Rona Jaffe had already published a thinly
disguised fictionalization of the press exaggerations of the Egbert case,
the 1981 novel Mazes and Monsters. The book was adapted into a
made-for-television movie (see Mazes and Monsters) in 1982.
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Post by Deeky on Aug 10, 2019 16:12:11 GMT -5
Deeky, I may have asked this before, but is your avatar in the final days of the old board a dog wearing a gas mask? This picture?  |
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