The Dungeon Master

[Killer Goldfish]

Why would that be surprising? Is she best known for editing the "Weekly World News" or something?

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You should have asked that in 2011.

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i'd be surprised if they didn't.

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My copy of the Dungeonmaster was in paperback, and I probably should have
kept it. I had forgotten Dallas using cyanide, which, with his chemistry
skills, he made himself, but I do remember his vivid description of how he
felt "sick as a dog," from the cyanide, after his suicide attempt failed.

Also, I didn't realize that in Louisiana Dallas worked on an oil rig and
stayed in a crack house. I do know that when the detective went to take
Dallas home he referred to the men Dallas was staying with, as "shit
kickers," and he took his pistol along in case he needed it.

Wonder if there was a hard cover version of the book.

In the tunnels, where D&D was played by the college students, there was a
dinner table, and some dummies sitting at it, and it was amazing how
anyone could have gotten that furniture into the tunnels.

Some of the college students also played a game on a railroad, where they
took chances of being hit by a train, although I don't think any of them
were run over.

Don't remember if Dallas played the train game or not.

Dallas, being so intelligent went to college at a younger age than the
other students, & I think his being younger caused some problems for him.
He was asked to leave the group, by some of his fellow Dungeons and
Dragons players.

I think Dallas made his suicide by cyanide attempt in the tunnels.

During the search for Dallas, one detective, I think it was Gillitzer,
went to bath houses hoping to find clues to where Dallas might be.
Detective Gillitzer, a self professed Gay, said he felt sorry for Dallas,
who as a young Gay must be having a hard time, and hoped his bath house
visits would help to find Dallas, which of course, they didn't.

Dallas had been banished from his cub scout troop for making a pass at
another boy.

Dallas wrote letters, one of which mentions the value of having a big
penis, to a homosexual.

One letter Dallas wrote, a handwriting specialist, authoritatively claimed
could not have been written by Dallas.

But, Dallas later claimed he had written the letter. But, being right
handed, he wrote it with his left hand, thereby making a positive ID
impossible.

Dallas did not immediately die from his self inflicted bullet wound, but
was unconscious, in a coma, and his parents eventually had him taken off
of life support, after which he died.

It was all a very sad story.

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Here are some reviews of MAZES AND MONSTERS.

A good many of the reviews were by D & D enthusiasts, who were outraged,
that the movie apparently portrayed their game in a negative way.

However, some D & D fans didn't view it that way at all, but liked the
film, and said it actually got them into playing D & D.

Not many of them mentioned the film's possibly being based on a real life,
story, but one actually went as far as naming James Dallas Eggbert, even
dissing his surname, which I think was taking things a bit too far.

From IMDB reviews, page 2:

0 out of 1 people found the following review

*Hidden Treasure*, 13 September 2006
Author: </user/ur9531666/comments> from Canada

I personally love this movie as I watched it at age 12 & instantly fell
into playing D&D. I owe more than 20 years of fond player memories to
this film.

However, my notation is neither cheers not jeers for the film but rather
an easter egg of sorts. There is a scene where Robby is walking dazed
forward through the new york crowd during daylight hours. Starting
roughly the final third of the film. If you look in the top right hand
corner of your screen you will see an obscure entertainment legend in
the OBVIOUS general deep field focus. The person? Dr.Gonzo himself,
Hunter S. Thompson. Complete with shades & filter grip cig.

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0 out of 4 people found the following review useful:
*Concur: Bad*, 18 November 2004
Author: Jeff Long </user/ur4268330/comments> from Indiana

...A really lame concept that actually paralleled some real things that
happened at about the same time at a university in Michigan (either UM
or MSU) where kids went down into sewers and played a live-action D&D
game. I think someone got hurt and maybe even killed.

Anyway, they play D&D and eventually go into caves or sewers or
something and your expecting, OK, maybe someone goes nuts and starts
killing people. Nope, Hanks just starts crying and have a breakdown at
the end and thats it.

Really, quite bad.

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IMDB review from Page 3:

27 out of 32 people found the following review useful:
*The Flagship of D&D is Bad for You Movies*, 17 February 2004
Author: HorrorLARPGuy </user/ur2457786/comments> from Spencer, NY

.....There is also the book "The Dungeon Master: The Disappearance of
James Dallas Eggbert III" byWilliam Dear. It's the true story of how the
author's search for a missing college student.

The author is a P.I. and focuses his search around the missing kid's D&D
hobby.

He ignores other aspects of trouble in the kid's life, like the kid's drug

problem and instead hangs out to play D&D and get into this kid's head. In
the
end James Dallas Eggbert III is found in a crack house with no help from
the author.

The cover of the book lead people to believe yet again that D&D is bad for
you,
when the reality of it is that being a 16 year old genius in college with
drug problems, homosexual tendencies and the name Eggbert would
overwhelming for
anyone, gamer or not.

James Dallas Eggbert Committed suicide before the book came out. William
Dear had
the TV show "Matt Houston" based on him. They even had an episode play
very Loosely
on the Eggbert story.

If you look at all of these tales, fictitious or true, the game itself
is never really to blame. In Mazes & Monsters it's Robbie's issues with
guilt over a missing brother that caused his insanity, not the game
itself.

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[Billy A. Anderson]

On another message board that I frequent(ly) post to, we have a member named Sirgod, who describes himself:

9:00 PM - 1 day ago#456
. . . the nomicker Sirgod is an old and storied one actually. I forgot that it just came over from another . . . board I follow.

The long story, is way back in the late 70's early 80's, I was the DM for our local AD&D games.

Now I always tried to be a fair DM, but the running gag among my friends, for when I got to play a character, is that no one let anything happen to 'Sirgod" over there, as he will be DM'ing next week.

[Killer Goldfish]

I have to agree that blaming D&D for anything is, at best, a red herring.

[Deeky]

Aug 28, 2019 13:37:12 GMT -5 Killer Goldfish said:

I have to agree that blaming D&D for anything is, at best, a red herring.

I thought the author admitted to making that whole part up.

[Billy A. Anderson]

Deeky, I don't know that William Dear ever blamed D & D for Dallas's suicide and admitted to making up anything in his account of the story. From what he reports of Dallas confiding in him his despair about life was a combination of things that did include his parents pressuring him to make high grades in his college studies, but I don't think Mr. Dear blamed any one thing for what happened to Dallas.

I do want to get the book, because I don't want to misquote Detective Dear and put any words into his mouth that he didn't say.

Right now, I'm working on a lot of projects, including the Dark Shadows, also posting tens of pages of Parker's zine Roasting Roderick to CHFB, and also trying to find as complete a version as possilbe of HG Lewis's 2nd HillBilly Horror Film, said in the Somethng Weird summary to be "evemn more sinister" than 2,000 Maniacs, the first film of that type. Parts of the "gore" special effects which Mr. Lewis considered his best ever, he cut out, because unlike the trailer for 2,000 Maniacs these horror signts were not included along with a statement it was made by the director of Blood Feast, and no warnings in the newspaper ads that it was an adult film, so when people at the drive in showed up with their kids he cut ouot the most horrible part(s).

That has nothing to do wiht Dungeons anbd Dragons, but its a project that is taking up a lot of my time, and I will preobably have to order both the Something Weird and Sinister Cinema DVD versions. I don't have a Blue Ray USB device, and while i coud certainly buy one, I don't know if I would have to biuy costly hardware to pay put the films onto usb, and of course, I would have to pay to downkload the films.

[Billy A. Anderson]

I think that US sales of Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will begin soon, in September of this year.

And, I sitll need to get Pauline's memoirs of the madam of clay street, how to be a chrisitan without being religious and the X Rated Movie Guide Vol VI by patrick riley as well as the dungeon maswter, and what other books? when i make these lists, I always seem to leave a title out.

I also scanned an ad for the documentary film Mason, which might clear up the matter of the film being "banned," and I need to get it from PDF to JPg to post here.

An awful lot of stuff do do, as well as a lot of household repairs and cleaning.

[Killer Goldfish]

Aug 28, 2019 14:56:12 GMT -5 Deeky said:

Aug 28, 2019 13:37:12 GMT -5 Killer Goldfish said:

I have to agree that blaming D&D for anything is, at best, a red herring.

I thought the author admitted to making that whole part up.

If he did, he was only riding the same bandwagon a zillion angry parents were. For a while there D&D was seen as an express elevator to hell, and the root cause of everything from Sean Sellers killing his parents in the name of Satan to the success of Ozzy Osborn.

[Billy A. Anderson]

Old Board Post# 15, was by Webmaster Deeky, who had no written comments, but just posted a large photo of the hard? book cover.

Deeky, the photo, as attached, when enlarged, is probably the same size as from the  link, on the old board but obviously, it would be better
to have the full sized photo here where the viewers wouldn't need to click on the photo to enlarge it.


Your photo file had a width of 465 pixels
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Horizontal resolution 96 dpi
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I got these figures from the photo in the file folder when I saved the thread page as a comple HTML file.  Possibly they are wrong for the size photo which appeared on y our post on the old board.




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Wonder if there was a hard cover version of the book.



yes. and there is a copy available on amazon for eleven cents.

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Wonder if there was a hard cover version of the book.



yes. and there is a copy available on amazon for eleven cents.


Thanks for telling me, Deeky.

I think I'll just get the book from the public library, since my purging
it from my own collection was to make more free space in my shack.

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Jul 29, 1981 7:50:22 GMT -5 Billy A. Anderson said:

Thanks for telling me, Deeky.

You're welcome.

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here is some info on it

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Deeky,

thanks for the link. I just requested DUNGEON MASTER from the public
library.

On the net sites offering it, most of the user reviews were positive,
although a few were quite negative. Might put a few short excerpts
here.

I went to the used bookstore where I sold or traded my paperback copy
of Dungeon Master a few years back, & it had sold, which is good for the
bookstore, and the buyer if he or she likes the book like I did.

Won't be able to say till after I've re-read the book, whether I should
have kept it or not.

I have so much stuff, that I just can't keep it all in this life, and I
sure won't be taking any of it with me when I depart the physical vehicle.


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Nov 14, 1984 22:00:39 GMT -5 Billy A. Anderson said:

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here is some info on it

What is even happening.