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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 5, 2024 5:25:41 GMT -5
I couldn't decide which song to post from this album - their best in my estimation - so I'm just going to post all of them.
Trivia:
This was one of the songs that got reactionaries calling them Satanic.
For the radio edit, it was insisted that they change the line 'do it to your daughter on a dirt road' to 'do it like you oughtta on a dirt road.'
Lyrics by Patti Smith, who was rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Alan Lanier's girlfriend for a good portion of the band's early run (she contributed a number of lyrics to their early records and sang on one track on the record after this one; I get the feeling that the BÖC/Patti connection isn't particularly well known).
1. Career of Evil
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Post by Dr. Kobb on May 7, 2024 10:30:32 GMT -5
Like Patti Smith Patti Smith? That seems especially weird. Cool though.
I only got to see BOC once, but they were great. It was the year after the legendary Black & Blue tour.
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 8, 2024 5:18:47 GMT -5
Like Patti Smith Patti Smith? That seems especially weird. Cool though. Patti Smith Patti Smith Patti Smith, to be precise. Yeah, I rarely see it mentioned. They're more closely associated with metal, but they were an influence on punkers too. The Minutemen adored them. |
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Post by Killer Goldfish on May 8, 2024 12:04:10 GMT -5
I couldn't decide which song to post from this album - their best in my estimation - so I'm just going to post all of them. Trivia: This was one of the songs that got reactionaries calling them Satanic. For the radio edit, it was insisted that they change the line 'do it to your daughter on a dirt road' to 'do it like you oughtta on a dirt road.' Lyrics by Patti Smith, who was rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Alan Lanier's girlfriend for a good portion of the band's early run (she contributed a number of lyrics to their early records and sang on one track on the record after this one; I get the feeling that the BÖC/Patti connection isn't particularly well known). 1. Career of Evil Radio edits are damned strange things. In all the years since NIN released "Closer," I never heard them edit out any hint of "I want to fnck you like an animal"...before today when they started bleeping out the effword. Why did they wait until every toddler and grandma already knew all the words? |
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Post by Deeky on May 8, 2024 15:55:42 GMT -5
Patti Smith Patti Smith Patti Smith, to be precise. Yeah, I rarely see it mentioned. They're more closely associated with metal, but they were an influence on punkers too. The Minutemen adored them. Ahem.... it's actually Patti Patti Patti Smith Smith Smith. |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on May 8, 2024 16:44:38 GMT -5
Patti Smith Patti Smith Patti Smith, to be precise. Yeah, I rarely see it mentioned. They're more closely associated with metal, but they were an influence on punkers too. The Minutemen adored them. Ahem.... it's actually Patti Patti Patti Smith Smith Smith. If you say Nina Hagen's name three times like that she'll manifest. Works best in a dark bathroom or attic space. |
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 10, 2024 4:56:50 GMT -5
Nota bene: many of the songs run one right into the next, which you don't get the effect of listening to them one at a time. It's not a big thing, but it is quite well done.
Trivia:
There is a mythos behind the band conceived by songwriter/manager/producer/band co-founder Sandy Pearlman, based around something called Imaginos. I actually don't know much about it, but I do know that this is one of the songs connected to it.
The song was originally going to be called 'Blue Oyster Cult', but when they decided to use that for the name of the band, they changed it to 'Subhuman'. You will note references to "oyster boys," which became a nickname for the band among fans.
Given the clear marine bent of the lyrics, and the suggestion of anthropo-piscene comingling, I dedicate this one to Fishface.
2. Subhuman
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 22, 2024 4:34:53 GMT -5
Trivia:
This is apparently based on an experience lyricist Sandy Pearlman had on New Year's Eve 1963. Something to do with hearing The Beatles on the radio for the first time and maybe something kind of kinky went down involving a friend and her brother, I'm not entirely sure about the dynamics of it. He did say something about thinking about the difference of the effect of a piece of music on an individual vs. society at large.
There are many who consider Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser to be among the best rock guitarists ever, and you will hear an example as to why with the final guitar solo, one of his finest.
3. Dominance and Submission
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Post by Mayzshon on May 22, 2024 18:27:32 GMT -5
Patti Smith Patti Smith Patti Smith, to be precise. Yeah, I rarely see it mentioned. They're more closely associated with metal, but they were an influence on punkers too. The Minutemen adored them. Ahem.... it's actually Patti Patti Patti Smith Smith Smith. Wait, is this who you're talking about:  |
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 23, 2024 4:43:54 GMT -5
She does have a "people have the power" vibe to her.
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 26, 2024 4:45:38 GMT -5
Trivia:
Another song that got them in trouble. Along with the Satanic thing, some people accused them of dabbling in Nazi imagery. The cover of the album depicts them standing around a German WWII plane, and this song is about an aerial battle from the viewpoint of the German pilot, so people got ideas. Never mind that two of the three guys who wrote it are Jewish. Never mind that it's a song about war, not politics. Anyway, it fucking rocks.
4. ME 262
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Post by El Santo on May 29, 2024 14:09:18 GMT -5
The cover of the album depicts them standing around a German WWII plane... Specifically, it depicts them standing around an Me-262. |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on May 29, 2024 16:54:03 GMT -5
I wonder if Sabbath lifted the same war plane theme for their Never Say Die album?
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Post by Marxo Grouch on May 30, 2024 4:41:04 GMT -5
The cover of the album depicts them standing around a German WWII plane... Specifically, it depicts them standing around an Me-262. Yeah, I meant to clarify that. |
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Post by El Santo on May 30, 2024 14:07:50 GMT -5
I wonder if Sabbath lifted the same war plane theme for their Never Say Die album?
No, that's something else. It's hard to be certain from just the rearmost section of the cockpit canopy, but I think it might be a T-6, the US Army Air Force's main training aircraft during World War II and its immediate aftermath. (There was also a Navy version of the T-6, called the SNJ, but Navy planes were almost always painted. Salt spray is hell on bare aluminum.) |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on May 30, 2024 14:34:10 GMT -5
I wonder if Sabbath lifted the same war plane theme for their Never Say Die album?
No, that's something else. It's hard to be certain from just the rearmost section of the cockpit canopy, but I think it might be a T-6, the US Army Air Force's main training aircraft during World War II and its immediate aftermath. (There was also a Navy version of the T-6, called the SNJ, but Navy planes were almost always painted. Salt spray is hell on bare aluminum.) Well, I didn't mean the same exact kind of plane. Just interesting motif, I guess. I used to have that album (the Sabbath, not the Cult) and always thought it was an unusual concept for a metal band of the era*.
*And the same applies to the BOC album art, although you never knew what they'd choose for their album covers since their sound was more eclectic.
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