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Post by Killer Goldfish on Jul 28, 2019 17:27:02 GMT -5
Now partway into both 
(poorly written to the point of being really irritating)
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Post by Marxo Grouch on Aug 16, 2019 5:16:40 GMT -5
The Earth by Emile Zola. Peasant farmers in France about two thirds of the way through the nineteenth century. Zola's portraits of groups of people is, I believe, generally acknowledged to be pretty good, well, if that's true, then salt of the earth my ass. These are horrible, horrible people. I mean, the central characters, almost all of whom are family, by the way, may not be representative of all of the people who lived this life back then, but one doesn't get much of a good sense from any of the other, subsidiary characters either. I mean, I'm not a fanatic about the whole family-always-sticks-together schtick, but what these people do to their own kin...Christ! This was apparently Zola's most scandalous novel for its graphic violence and sex (still a sliding scale, mind you, but there's some heavy shit here), plus, in the interest of an accurate transposition in regard to level of coarseness, some of the language is pretty rough too, in a way that probably wouldn't have been allowed in older translations.
I am now six tomes into Zola's twenty-book Rougon-Macquart series. (You don't need to read them in order, although I started out doing that anyway.)
The Fortune of the Rougons
The Kill
The Belly of Paris
The Conquest of Plassans
The Sin of Father Mouret
His Excellency Eugène Rougon
L'Assommoir
A Love Story
Nana
Pot-Bouille
The Ladies' Delight
The Bright Side of Life
Germinal
The Masterpiece
The Earth
The Dream
La Bête humaine
L'Argent
The Debacle
Doctor Pascal
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 16, 2019 11:19:07 GMT -5
Goldie, as a basically Inactive True Crime Student, I am totally overwhelmed that you have the time to keep at it, having long ago lost the drive to keep up my studies.
I am hoping to find, and post here on the board, two bizarre and horrifying stories I told you about privately one from 1967 and one from 1971.
When I find the time. Got to get to work to earn my next paycheck. Got to drive to the workplace, and it has been raining so the crowded highways will be even more dangerous.
Hope you have a good day.
I think one reason I stopped my True Crime Studies, is that the subject is so depressing and horrifying.
Did you read Life For Death, but Michael Mewshaw? That is one that especially touched a nerve with me, and has stuck with me since first reading it in the 1980s.
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 16, 2019 11:22:49 GMT -5
Marxo, I found out what a Kindle is, in my total nievete believing it was some program you put on your computer, rather than a computer itself which of course I don't want to spend the money on.
I'm sure that Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will eventually get to the USA, where its biggest audience will be.
The Beach Boys sang "Be True To Your School," and the High Society people of Georgetown, also Be True To Your Local Bordello, and they will buy the book, also along with myself, the actual hard copy book being highly preferable to a Kindle.
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Post by Deeky on Aug 16, 2019 14:07:37 GMT -5
I'm sure that Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will eventually get to the USA, where its biggest audience will be. Billy. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Aug 17, 2019 3:00:05 GMT -5
I'm sure that Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will eventually get to the USA, where its biggest audience will be. Billy. Touche on that one, Deeky, although Billy will have plenty of company in that audience. I don't think the book will have any great sales in the USA, and would say that the audience for the book would be relatively small, BUT - I never would have thought that Pauline Taybor's Memoirs of the Madam of Clay Street would have had more than one printing, and also gone into paperback. Pauline's book, is on my Book Wish List, along with: How To Be A Christian Without Being Religious The X-Rated Movie Guide by Patrick Riley, vol. VI, The Dungeon Master, and, what else? I know I'm probably leaving some books off of the list. I find it so amusing that each community across the USA has it's superlative of their local bawdy houses and the madams. One listing for Pauline's memoirs I checked said her house in Bowling Green Tennessee was the most famous in the USA. Uh, now, how do you define that superlative? Pauline, who's "Dream House," after years of problems with law enforcement, was a Pleasure Dome Inaugurated (remember the Kenneth Anger film of that title), by two male interior decorators, who paid Pauline $150.00 to be her first customers the night before the house was opened the general public. Well, Pauline's house was East of the Mississippi River, but, how about the claim that the Internationally Famous Sunset Lodge was the Most Famous House East of the Mississippi? And, how about Polly Adler, who sought the title of America's Most Famous Madam, (as the tag lines for the film A House Is Not A Home proclaimed), and her 9 houses in New York City? Oh, well, this former Nipple Masturbator, graduated to what is my current rank? and probably 90 posts away from Royal Anteater, has got some more pressing matters to move onto. |
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Post by Marxo Grouch on Aug 17, 2019 4:51:32 GMT -5
Marxo, I found out what a Kindle is, in my total nievete believing it was some program you put on your computer, rather than a computer itself which of course I don't want to spend the money on. I'm sure that Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will eventually get to the USA, where its biggest audience will be. The Beach Boys sang "Be True To Your School," and the High Society people of Georgetown, also Be True To Your Local Bordello, and they will buy the book, also along with myself, the actual hard copy book being highly preferable to a Kindle. All of the books I read are flesh and blood books, so to speak. My father tried to talk up the Kindle to me, but I just don't need devices like that. |
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Post by Deeky on Aug 17, 2019 16:12:02 GMT -5
Touché on that one, Deeky, although Billy will have plenty of company in that audience.  |
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Aug 18, 2019 4:51:01 GMT -5
In my stoned'est purchase of 2019, I ordered a book called The Triumph of Pierrot that's all about the history of the famous fictional character. It hasn't arrived yet. Should be here in a couple of days. I'm posting this as much as a reminder to myself as anything. So, I won't go, "What the fuck?!?" when it arrives.
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Aug 19, 2019 10:22:35 GMT -5
After I saw an old ad from a women's magazine with a recipe by Vincent Price that involved sauteed hotdogs doused in Angostura bitters and celery salt, served on skewers, I sent away for the hardcover edition of COOKING PRICE-WISE. If this is what they mean when they say he was a gourmet cook, well, I have to see it with my own eyes.
Brother Ragnarok recently acquired one of Price's more serious cookbooks, and has thereby become the one person posting his fucking dinner on Facebook whose posts in that vein are actually interesting. The book was still aimed at American consumers of the mid-20th century, so a lot of it rates noticeably on the "Really? Are you sure?" scale, but most of what he's chosen to cook from it so far genuinely looks tasty. The recipes in Cooking Price-Wise turn out to be quite good, in an almost Ukrainian way, with fresh ingredients, minimal seasonings that allow the flavors of the food to come through, and absolutely no hotdogs doused in bitters.
Now halfway into
...which is unexpectedly riveting. Suspenseful, even.
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Sept 3, 2019 13:42:08 GMT -5
I'm re-reading this, but it's been so long this is like a whole new book to me:
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Sept 3, 2019 20:02:24 GMT -5
I am not a fan of HG Lewis (I'm still not sure how to spell his name,and two letters is still easier than writing out his entire first name), but I do feel that Moonshine Mountain is a neglected film of Mr. Lewis, and it was his second Hillbilly Horror Show, after 2000 Maniacs, mean southerners, this time nothing about the Civil War, but very vicious organized crime people who were not like the cute snuffy smith cartoons.
As such, HGL did what he was specializing in at the time: horrible depictions of violence, but one scene was too horrible, since pople thought it was a family movie and were bringing their kids to the drive in, so he cut that scene from all circulating prints.
Something weird says that Moonshine Mountin, with its horror aspects, was even more sinister than its predecessor, 2000 Maniacs.
Oh, well, the film was a bore when I saw it first last and only time, in early 1972, but the Sinister Cinema print, while denounced as having the most missing footage, is said to have the most surviving footage of the horror scenes, so I'm starting my study of this film with the sinister Cinema print, which is on order, and altho the hurricane is nowhere near my dungeon, and there ws bright sunlight when I did my jogging (last week slowed down by a copperhead snake that was in my path), the post office is closed, and a store I have to work in is closed, so I don't even know if I'll get to work for a measly little paycheck this week, or not. And, no tellkng when the post office will reopen (it's a contract post office located near the interesection of sea mountain highway ant the ocean front highway, in a hardware store, and closes at 1 PM on Saturdayu. Will it be open Saturday until 1 PM, and my print of Moonshine mountain be there?
And, even if that does happen, if the stores I have to work in are open, working in them to get my paycheck takes presedence.
Second item are two pre 100th issue worlds finest comic books, which I am getting at relatively low prices.
Most of my old time comic book readings of batman and robin are done on that web page chocho told me about, and wwhile they have batman and detective, I so far have not found worlds finest on that web page.
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Sept 13, 2019 17:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Sept 13, 2019 17:46:53 GMT -5
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Nov 18, 2019 22:29:32 GMT -5
Just started the gloriously octopodal book of Lovecraft stories pictured above and was startled by how smoothly they are reading. I always think of HPL as a slog but I'm just gulping them down. I guess I'm fed up with badly-written crap and Lovecraft is nothing if not grammatical and carefully-edited.
And he's so...piscatorial!
I have been plowing through a book unfortunately called BRIAR PATCH: THE MURDER THAT WOULD NOT DIE that invariably transposes the words "principal" and "principle" ...and has repeatedly described someone stopping a car using the "break peddle." Cheesus Grits.
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Post by Killer Goldfish on Nov 18, 2019 22:37:19 GMT -5
Did you read Life For Death, but Michael Mewshaw? That is one that especially touched a nerve with me, and has stuck with me since first reading it in the 1980s. Just finally remembered to order this. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Nov 20, 2019 20:56:01 GMT -5
Did you read Life For Death, but Michael Mewshaw? That is one that especially touched a nerve with me, and has stuck with me since first reading it in the 1980s. Just finally remembered to order this. Goldie, it is an extremely sad story to read, and I am not sure exactly what the title means. Life, for death. I don't know if you have some brief idea of what the story was about, and I won't spoil it for you, but I'll briefly say it was about probably parracide, or parent-cide, since this youngster I forget his exact age, 13 or 14, shot and killed both of his adoptive parents. Michael Mewshaw was a best friend of the brother of the killer kid, and he and his family felt that considering the brutality that went on in his family, that the boy was driven to do what he did. It was compared to the story of Peter Riley or or was it spelled? I think his mother might have been a bit free with bestowing favors on men, and I don't know what had happened to his father, but his mother was murdered, and he was accused (Yes, back when I was a Devout True Crime Student, I really went all out). Well, anyway,Peter denied having killed his mother, and I don't remember if he was put on trial, and found not guilty or what. The boy in LIfe for Death did admit to kiling both of his adoptive parents, and Mr. Meshaw's writing a book about the case caused an estrangement between his best friend who was the boy's brother, and himself. There was some mention of the Peter Riley case, and how he had a lot of supportive people in his community, which Wayne, the boy in Life For death did not have. But, back to the title of Mr. Meshaw's book, which did not include any photos. Did it simply mean that the boy was given a "life" sentence for causing the "death" of his 2 adoptive parents, which some would consider being driven by the brutality he witnessed in the home, was not "really" murder? The boy got out of prison in his early adult years, and could the title refer that with his prison experience he had somehow changed from being an abused child into someone with a new "life" ? Well, you can read it and discuss it here if you want to. I vividly remember many parts of it, and it was a heartbreaking story to read. And, whatever happened to Peter Riley? I'm thinking about doing a net search on what has happened to him, if I can remember it. I think you will appreciate, Life For Death, I won't say "like," reading the story because it, like all other crime stories, is extremely unpleasant. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Nov 20, 2019 21:16:09 GMT -5
I'm sure that Sunset Lodge at Georgetown will eventually get to the USA, where its biggest audience will be. Billy. Deeky, you could well be right on that one. So far, there has only been one review on I think, Amazon (those 2 are confusing to me). And, that one reviewere thought it was very bad. It was basically just stories about how Miss Hazel Weisse, madam of Sunset Lodge (also known as "The Wagon Wheel," because that was a marker on the grounds. This lady college professor, when Sunset Lodge finally closed, I am sure, jokinging said, "when I worked there, they called it the wagon wheel." Well, it was basically just a collection of interviews with business people around Georgetown, SC, who knew Miss Hazel through her patroniing their businesses, and how nice she was, and, everybody knew her and was friendly with her except for a tiny handful of self righteous people who refused to sepeeak to her because of her illegal and immoral (two words the author repeatedly used to describe Sunset Lodge) business, to assure his readers that as nice as Miss Hazel was, he did not approve of her business. Every year, a Catholic officer would go to the grand jury of Georgetown and try to get it to indict Miss Hazel, but it never happehedl And, one sheriff said occasionally a pastor of a protestant church asked him to close sunet lodge, and he said he would do so, if he brought the deacojns of his church with him (I suppose the deacons were regulars at the lodge). So nohting ever came of that. Miss Hazel finally reached the point where her health got bad, and she asked the Sheriff to order Suinset Lodge to close, so there wouod be no arrest and prosecution in court of this lady that virtually everyone in Georgetown knew, and found to be so nice and kind to the unfornate have nots. There was only one photo of Miss Hazel, and one of the staircase of the reception building, where the gentlemen went to the four bedrooms for their dates with Miss Hazel's sporting ladies. There were no photos of the Bates Motel type of cabins which Miss Hazel had built on the grounds to accomidate the crowds of gentlemen who patronized the Lodge. |
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Post by Billy A. Anderson on Nov 20, 2019 21:22:58 GMT -5
Goldie, also on the LSD murders, there was a post on the Fortean message board about that horrible case I mentioned to you, and the response was there were all kinds of urban legends surrounding LSD, and that was that.
Well, some of us who read the posts to ZAQB well know that sometimes Urban Legends do have Fact behind them, and I will not dismiss that case as an urban legend until it has been thoroughly checked out.
I do remember one case where it was reported that some LSD users had been "Blinded by the Lihgt" of the sun while on the drug, but that story was debunnked as unture in the late 1960s.
However, the case of the man who electocuted himself with a motel room lamp cord, stripped of its insulation to accomplish his suicide.
He was near retirement or was retired from the Army, and was planning to write about his experiences as an undercover agent who passed on untrue things about US radar systems. His family sued the US government over his suicide, and there was a very long text of the court ruling in the case on the Fortean Message board.
I do not know why anyone would ever want to be an undercover agent.
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Post by Dr. Kobb on Nov 24, 2019 0:45:43 GMT -5
Goldie, also on the LSD murders, there was a post on the Fortean message board about that horrible case I mentioned to you, and the response was there were all kinds of urban legends surrounding LSD, and that was that. Well, some of us who read the posts to ZAQB well know that sometimes Urban Legends do have Fact behind them, and I will not dismiss that case as an urban legend until it has been thoroughly checked out. I do remember one case where it was reported that some LSD users had been "Blinded by the Lihgt" of the sun while on the drug, but that story was debunnked as unture in the late 1960s. However, the case of the man who electocuted himself with a motel room lamp cord, stripped of its insulation to accomplish his suicide. He was near retirement or was retired from the Army, and was planning to write about his experiences as an undercover agent who passed on untrue things about US radar systems. His family sued the US government over his suicide, and there was a very long text of the court ruling in the case on the Fortean Message board. I do not know why anyone would ever want to be an undercover agent.
Sorry to butt-in, but I'm confused as to which LSD murders you are referencing here. Please keep in mind I am not on the Fortean Message Board.
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